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Old 07-16-2007, 05:30 PM
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Checking for Stealth

How can I check if an ISO has been stealth patched (besides reading the nfo or taking someone's word)? Or any other patch? I have XDVDMulleter Beta 9.5.3. I'm just having a little difficulty understanding what I'm looking at. Here's what I see:









I guess I want to know what this program is telling me about the ISO.

Also, in the Video tab, there is an option to extract video. It saves it as an ISO. I haven't tried it yet, but would it actually extract the game movies?
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Old 07-16-2007, 05:43 PM
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Yeah it's stealthed by normal standards and ixtreme standards. ixtreme stealth means it will work with the new XBL-proof ixtreme firmware, the other stuff means it's stealthed by Xtreme 5 standards. The ixtreme firmware has extra stealth checks which will make non-stealthed Xtreme backups not boot. Even games that were stealthed by the old definitions won't boot if they don't satsify the extra security checks added into the ixtreme firmware.
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:54 AM
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To add to what LS has posted here, a 360 game disk is made up of several parts. The video partition, this is the part of the disk that when you put it into a PC or other DVD reader that plays that little movie that says, "To play this disk, insert it into an Xbox 360 game console". It doesn't actually refer to the game videos themselves. The other parts are the game partition, the DMI and the PFI. The game partition is locked to normal DVD readers and contains all the game data. The PFI is the Physical Format Information. Kind of like a table of contents, it gives information about how the game disk is layed out and such. The DMI is the Disk Manufacturing Information which contains information about the disk that the game is pressed on. Extracting the video file will give you an iso file. You can actually mount that iso file with something like daemon tools or other virtual drive software and play that little insert this into a 360 video, you could even extract it and get the dvd files from it. It is considered part of the stealth. The PFI and DMI are also considered part of the stealth. Extracting these files will give you a .bin file for each one.

In your example, your game that you checked with mulleter is stealthed and should run on any modded 360. For an extra check, you can go to the CRC Checking tab and run through those checks. If you check the two boxes, it will try to match the CRC's that it gets to a database, and if its in the database, compare your iso to whats on file and if something isn't right, offer for you to download and inject the stealth file thats causing the problem. But if it passes the initial stealth check, the database will find nothing wrong.

Hope this helps!!
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Wow, that helps a lot guys. This is all really interesting. Can't wait to eventually try to see if my backups play. In the meantime, more reading to do!
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Old 07-17-2007, 01:23 PM
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Wow, a use for XDVDMulleter lol, who knew? Thanks for the info Sadalius.
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So Sadalius, do you think most of the kinks are worked out with this software? (refering to a post by PTU announcing Beta 2 being released where you said the program looks promising, just a few bugs to work out.)
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mulleter has came a long way, and is still not up to what the author wants it to be. He wants it to be an all in one type of application that will eventually have the ability to do what it does now, plus be able to extract the files of an iso and then rebuild it if need be. This part doesn't work for now because there are other security parts of the game disk that hasn't been figured out yet as far as building an iso from scratch. We can copy these security parts, which is why we can make backups work properly, but for some reason we can't extract these or make them from scratch.

Other than that part, mulleter does what it's suppose to. Of course the CRC checking online database needs more data. Not all games are in the online database and only a few people are working on that. But it is a great idea to be able to compare what you ripped to what other people ripped to make sure that it's exactly the same thing. It still has a few small bugs with crashing sometimes, or at least it does with me, and I guess thats why its still in beta. But for what I use it for, it works great.
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Old 07-18-2007, 01:05 PM
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Yeah like Sadalius said, just avoid rewriting of isos, particularly if you're rewriting an Xbox 1 iso for use on 360, just gonna give you coasters most likely. I tried using it for the stealth check, and it does indeed work well for that. Hopefully those extra stealth checks will be implemented into XBC or Schtrom's soon.

@Sadalius As far as I understand it, anything ripped with XBC will be auto-patched to even ixtreme standards, and it's isos that are floating round the web that may not be, correct?
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